June 28, 2017

Dan Duchaine: Interview by Scott Harrah for MuscleZine

Scott Harrah interviewed Dan Duchaine for MuscleZine entitled “Dan Duchaine Unchained: The ‘Guru’ Breaks the Silence on Steroids“. Duchaine freely discussed the less glamorous side of steroid dealing. Dan went to prison twice for selling bodybuilding drugs. He discusses his experiences in some detail.

I went to prison twice. I went to prison in 1987. There was a very odd time in my life, where I started doing a small retail steroid operation. I had a price list going out in the mail, and it grew out of having friends who were steroid dealers. They wanted to get mail-order customers. They mailed out their price list to people who had bought my Underground Steroid Handbook. For the longest time I said, “I’m not going to sell steroids because I don’t know where to get them.” Then there was a point in my life where I left my first wife. I left with nothing, because she took everything. I was a little low on cash, and had an acquaintance who had the ability to get anabolic steroids. So I said I’d throw my price list in with the others. I actually probably undercut the others, so my list was much more attractive. Mostly the customers were people who would buy $100 to $200 at a time. A couple things happened. I started getting a lot of things from a steroid dealer in Europe who wanted to move product through America. He extended me some credit, and I couldn’t do all the selling myself so I started wholesaling things out to other dealers. And Dianabol, the most popular oral steroid withdrawn from the market, both the generic and the trade name…I was looking around for a replacement. All of the replacements were very poorly done. You could pick up a tablet and write your name on a chalkboard. It was that bad. There were some tablets out of England and India that were very nice. Guys would show up at the L.A. airport and I’d get a few hundred bottles, but I’d never know when they’d come back.

Then I had the opportunity to work with someone I’d never met before. He was working with a small drug company in Tijuana that was making generic drugs for the Mexican market. They specialized in antibiotics like Tetracycline. We had a meeting one day and he said, “Could you use some Dianabol?” I said, “Damn right I can, but I’m not a drug smuggler.” He said, “We can get it over the border for you.” I told him that I was mostly a retail guy and asked him how much I’d have to buy. He said 5,000 bottles. I said, “I don’t know. That would last me a year.” Then I talked to a friend of mine, and we agreed that we could move it out of Mexico, so that’s how we started with this manufacturing company, Laboratories Milano. For a short time, my job was to dream up the kind of steroids they’d make. I’d find an example on the market and maybe change the packaging and labels. After a half a year, I noticed the U.S. Federal Government was starting to follow me around. And I thought, “This is not a hobby anymore.” So I left that whole conspiracy and left the steroid business and moved to San Francisco. I started working with Champion Nutrition. About the middle of 1987, the government swept up everyone who was ever involved with that conspiracy and I happened to be at the beginning of it. I did 10 months in prison that time.

After I was released on probation, I stupidly in about 1991 met up with a friend who had a longevity club selling GHB. The GHB supplement used to be available in health-food stores until the FDA realized it was really a sleep aid. It could knock you out in 20 minutes. Even though they can’t really ban a drug-only Congress and the DEA can do that-they can enact these weird Catch-22 labeling laws. So as long as you’re selling GHB in your state, they can’t touch you, but if you ship a bottle of a substance they don’t really like across state lines, there is no possible way to fulfill the labeling requirements. So we just didn’t put labels on the GHB bottles, with no claims whatsoever. We just called them research chemicals. The government kind of got pissed about that. Unfortunately it was supposed to be a finite thing. We had very little GHB left. We had a little Clenbuterol at the same time. It was an already established longevity buyer’s club. Unfortunately for us, one of the customers was an undercover FDA agent so I got my tit caught in the wringer. It was a stupid thing for me to do. Even though I can argue that it wasn’t worth 36 months because it wasn’t really an illegal drug, hey-I take the responsibility. I did my time. I learned a lot in prison about how to make money in legitimate avenues. I probably made more money in prison than the prison officials!

The full interview can be found here.

MuscleZine by Scott Harrah

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  • Producing an official list that can
    be employ in the laboratory is the second best thing to mull over instantly in
    purchasing research chemicals.The official list of inventories find out the
    existence of a precise research chemical, its location, and estimate shelf age,
    thus helping to control the hazards in the laboratory.Please make sure to
    generate purchase guidelines, which include purchasing chemicals in the
    smallest amount needed, or only a one to two-year supply.A dependable chemical
    supplier who can transport a genuine research chemical must be selected.
    Dependable chemical supplier signifies any suppliers with no company names that
    include terms like “high”, “buzz”, “trips”, “legal”,
    “shaman”, “rave”, or anything else that is too reminiscent
    of the drug society since buying research chemicals do not indicate buying
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